Alfs
12:36 Fri Aug 18
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In the TV world most of the execs are women these days and I prefer working under them than their male counterparts. I put it down to less ego.
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stewie griffin
11:23 Thu Aug 17
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Capitol Man 10:35 Thu Aug 17
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SG = how is it a "fundamentally different sport"?
Different game may be a better way to put it, in fairness. Regardless, the levels are so vastly different that its not even vaguely comparable. As said on the other thread, two if the best teams in the world lost 5-2 & 7-0 respectively to two U15s boys sides from poor quality professional clubs.
So you can probably have it one of two ways - either say its fucking shit, or that it should be judged on its merits as something completely different. Personally I prefer the latter , but if you want to judge it on standard alone, knock yourself out
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WHU(Exeter)
11:17 Thu Aug 17
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There is room for both men’s and women’s football?
Do you have this weekends lottery winning numbers whilst you’re at it?
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riosleftsock
11:13 Thu Aug 17
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Can't the mods lock this shit?
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Capitol Man
11:07 Thu Aug 17
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So the general message here is either the women's version is gash and not worth bothering with, or that they can have their little World Cup as long as they know their place and accept they are inferior to the men's game in any way?
Certainly the women's game should work to stand on its own financially, but it's not bad for the men's clubs to invest in broadening the game's appeal, but it's not a zero-sum game here and there's room for both versions without the need to put the women's version down at every opportunity.
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Gary Strodders shank
10:56 Thu Aug 17
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Those who champion the women's game want parity and the WSL to play games at the clubs home grounds but attendances do not bare this out despite the media coverage on the likes of the beeb and the low cost of tickets compared to the mens teams.
The World Cup will no doubt increase the interest and numbers but whether this rise will be consistent remains to be seen.
The tickets for England women at Wembley were in the past priced ridiculously cheap or given away to schools community groups etc.
Anyway good luck to them in the final.
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Iron Duke
10:51 Thu Aug 17
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My hero?
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Takashi Miike
10:47 Thu Aug 17
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"The disrespect for David Moyes has taken a new level on this thread."
what are you respecting? sticking ten men behind the ball and grinding your way to safety? i didn't use the word better, but I'd take anyone that actually wants their team to play football, and that's what she does. she listens to her fellow coaches, allows input from others and sets up a way of playing that suits the players. the absolute complete opposite to your hero, the anti football control freak cunt
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RM10
10:42 Thu Aug 17
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I have had 3 women bosses, each have had a serious obsession about something, all have cried it’s been emotional, but ok, as long as you follow orders
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Ron Eff
10:37 Thu Aug 17
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The FA CEO claiming it to be disrespectful to say the men’s national job is a step up on the women’s is exactly the sort of thing that switches me off the women’s game. If they let it be what it is instead of comparing it to the men’s game all the time, people would get onboard.
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Capitol Man
10:35 Thu Aug 17
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SG = how is it a "fundamentally different sport"?
It's exactly the same sport, the players are just different.
The biggest issue I'd have thought it whether a men's side would accept a woman coach or would we see the toys coming out the pram like on the women's World Cup thread.
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Iron Duke
10:34 Thu Aug 17
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The disrespect for David Moyes has taken a new level on this thread.
Sarina Weigman would do a better job than Moyes…
Emma Hayes would do a better job than Moyes…
Cherie Lunghi would do a better job than Moyes…
Susie Boyle would do a better job than Moyes
FFS. He may be dull but he’s not a shit manager.
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Gary Strodders shank
10:22 Thu Aug 17
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Forrest Green have already toyed with this by appointing an interim female head coach earlier in the summer which may of been an outlier to what's to come in the next few years.
Increasingly more fitness coaches at clubs are female and there have been female bosses at lower pyramid clubs already.
Whether it will work be a gimmick or become common place remains to be seen.
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zico
9:58 Thu Aug 17
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I'm more intrigued to see how successful Guardiola would be at West Ham!
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El Scorchio
9:49 Thu Aug 17
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As you probably saw, I do think some of the off the pitch aspects are silly and OTT, definitely.
FWIW if any woman coach were ever going to have any shot at managing a men's team here then it's her. She does seem pretty tactically astute and good at preparing teams for games and she speaks very well. In any form of the game what she's done is very impressive Probably as close as you'd get to being the 'real deal' for a female football manager.
However I don't think she will ever do it or get offered it. I don't think she'd ever get treated with any respect and she'd get so much abuse- especially the first time something goes wrong. Also got it made in the women's game so probably better staying there
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Crassus
9:35 Thu Aug 17
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I know mate, it's an extension from the other
I assumed, correctly, that you would pick it up
You have
I'm not angling for a soppy arse keyboard row, least of all with a proper poster, but I think this illustrates my earlier point
Funny enough, it transpires that we are batting the same end, just seeing a different delivery, if that makes sense
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El Scorchio
9:27 Thu Aug 17
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Crassus 9:17
What are you talking about? I haven't written anything on this thread.
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Crassus
9:17 Thu Aug 17
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Scorch'
ESPN now reporting the FA would consider Wiegman as waistcoats successor
Clearly they would not say bollox to that soppy idea, but I address the direction of travel and your denial of any 'campaign'
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stewie griffin
8:15 Thu Aug 17
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Neville is useless, but I'm not sure that's because of his stint with England women. Mark Samson did pretty well, but never made any impact in the men's game. Because it's fundamentally a completely different sport.
Neville had no business managing them really.
In much the same way as I wouldn't necessarily want Charlotte EDWARDS to be coach of the England cricket team, and she's someone who has achieved a hell of a lot more in the game than anyone on the football side.
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goose
8:11 Thu Aug 17
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Still played 4th division football in Belgium, which would make him the best female player on the planet by some distance.
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Crassus
8:06 Thu Aug 17
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Alex
As explained routinely below, Will Still has managed at a far higher level (and succeeded) than Wiegman
Fair play, in her orbit the lady has done very well and put the fraud Neville firmly in his box, not that that means much in the grand scheme obviously
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